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2x17 - Lockdown Airdate: March 29, 2006

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Okay, this is a TOTAL longshot, but it's just something that came to my mind... feel free to shoot it down and stomp on it (Just stomp gently!).

Remember the hieroglyphics we saw when the counter hit zero? He're the pic again:

http://www.losttalk.net/attachment.p...4&d=1140120863

It shows a hooky-thing, (blank), flame, bird, and stick-like thing. Well... the hook is kinda like a STAFF (shepherd's staff, not medical staff, I know), the bird (I know it's not one, related to) a SWAN, the FLAME and the stick is an ARROW? Those are the names of the 4 stations identified on the map (here again):

http://www.losttalk.net/attachment.p...8&d=1143817345

Of course, there are presumed to be two more stations, and there is only one blank left on the counter. Like I said, a real longshot. But just something I was thinking about...
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Ok I don't kno if the image is there but this is what I believe the counter goes to. Just me though.

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Yeah, we got that, I was just wondering if it had any relation to the hatches.
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The new Entertainment Weekly has the map and a few thoughts on it.
 
 
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The new Entertainment Weekly has the map and a few thoughts on it.
Not sure if its allowed to link it up through the forums, but if you could possibly get us a link, that would be amazing.

As far as your thoughts go Blackbird, i was looking at that myself last night trying to form some sort of connection between the Blast Door Map and what the timer said when it had reached zero. You might be stretching things just a little bit to make them fit, but i for sure agree that there is some connection between that counter and the other hatches.

In both Orientation and What Kate Did, we get to see the video that Dharma created for its workers. The man talking uses a model of the computer room (what i would assume would be taking from the Swan Hatch) to illustrate where and how to input the numbers to the computer. From what we know right now, the Swan hatch is the only hatch which HAS a computer to input numbers. (gaining my thoughts....trying to remember where i was headed......)

RIGHT, okay. So, going off of what you said, perhaps these symbols that are on the clock ARE connected to specific hatches which are on the blast door map. (this borders on the lines of speculation i know...just bare with me) Perhaps when the clock hits zero (and is allowed to stay there) it activates the other sites? Who knows.

All that to say that i think you're on to something. Getting the names from the blast door map of the other hatches also addds strength to your thoughts i think. I guess we'll just have to wait and see!
 
 
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Sorry, did it again. Another thought.

It seems like the lines which are around the C3 and C4 hatches are geographical markings which suggest either mountains or valleys. The other markings on the map (not words or other hatches, but the curved lines) seem to be rivers. Would anyone agree with this assumption?
 
 
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The other markings on the map (not words or other hatches, but the curved lines) seem to be rivers. Would anyone agree with this assumption?
Yes it is a great possibility. LOST is alaways up to speculation, nothing is wrong until proven wrong.
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And yet again, another thought. They do come in waves don't they? lol, one just makes my brain think of another!

Under the Swan hatch on the door, you see a message that a large majority of the translated maps haven't translated. Some have, but not all. The message reads: "No connection to Islandwide E.E.P. network."

I know its been said that the lines connectings the hatches together on the blast door map are possibly some sort of computer connection or means of communication in some form (for use similar to that in how Michael communicated with Walt?) If then, we assume these lines are communication lines, wouldn't it make sense that the C4 hatch (even though its in dotted lines) would be the hatch not connected? There is a message by that hatch on the door that says "Subterranean Conduit?". Seems more like a question than a statement...wondering why there is no connection? Who knows...just another of my many endless thoughts on this whole thing.
 
 
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There is a message by that hatch on the door that says "Subterranean Conduit?". Seems more like a question than a statement...wondering why there is no connection? Who knows...just another of my many endless thoughts on this whole thing.

Just throwing my two cents in. What if Desmond wrote the "Subterranean Conduit?" on the wall. Desmond might have also noted that you couldn't journey very far from the computer because of the 108 minute deadline.

And what about that telescope thing Desmond used at the start of the season when they blew the hatch.

Also, I wonder if those "X"s at the ends of the tubes aremeant to show that they have been sealed off--in concrete. Could Dharma have tried to turn the Hatch into a doomsday bunker because they thought the staff people (Dharma personnel) were infacted/contaminated? Hence the vaccine that Desmond was injecting himself with. Also, the reason why the Others felt it necessary to innoculate Claire's unborn child.

And wouldn't that explain the Others' attitude with "taking" only the best survivors? They've been left to fend for themselves by Dharma, with only the resources of the other two stations.

And, finally, is it possible that it was Walt who got the computer network up and running again? The Others did not have the expertise because Dharma didn't want to risk contaminating the clean areas of the island (or the healthy personnel) to help them fix it.
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So i was poking around another site that i look at from time to time, and ran across two interesting things. One is random, but the other has to do with my math question i asked a few posts back. The first:

This is a sound bite that someone has tried to render of a portion of the loud speaker we heard before the lockdown. The poster of this thinks he hearts "seventeen minutes to lockdown." I on the other hand think it says "seventeen seconds to lockdown." Although i can't hear whether it says minutes or seconds, i do know after is says lockdown, it gives a ten-zero countdown (not in the link provided). What are the ramifications of this if the voice IS saying minutes instead of seconds? Would lockdown imply something other than the blast doors? Something maybe on another part of the island? Thoughts?

(if the link doesn't work, copy and paste it in another window, it should work) (posted by a member named: joepitt206)

http://www.freewebs.com/khip/17%20minutes.mp3


The second post relates to my math question earlier. I get lost in some of the thoughts, but just some ideas. (posted by a member named phage)

"I would like to see the formulas/equations in more detail. Nobody has focused on them. More than likely they are BS because even the show numb3rs throws some BS in from time to time but the one I can actually make out (located top right) is definitely talking about magnetic fields due to current. The B with an arrow over top is refering to the B field vector (magnetic field). The mu nought (looks like a weird u with a subscript 0) is called the permeability constant (defined as exactly 4*pi*10^(-17)T*m/A). It looks like there's a pi with a subscript v which is senseless though. The rest of it doesn't make sense without seeing the whole thing. I don't know what the M vector would represent or what V is. Looks to be very close to the B field for a semi-infinite straight wire defined as B=mu_0*i/(4*pi*R). It's just the defined it in terms of M and V (the equation I wrote immediatly above is just one derivation from dB=mu_0/(4*pi)*i*ds*sin(theta)/r^2 and they derived it from something else). Again, if somebody could capture the whole thing I might be able to tell exactly. It is definitely refering to a magnetic field though.

At the top left of the first image in this post i can make out r*(sqrt(5)-1)/2 which the (sqrt(5)-1)/2 kind of like a significant number because it's part of Binets formula for Fibonacci numbers. Binet found a function to express the recurrance relation by Fibonacci for the reproduction of animals (i think it was rabbits). What is significant about it is it includes the irrational number sqrt(5) but somehow produces an integer. www.mathworld.com has a lot of information on Binet's formula (just search Fibonacci).

As for the rest of it I can't really make it out the whole part that has the square roots of 16, 64, and 225 I think has been misread. People are saying sqrt(16)=4, sqrt(64)=8, and sqrt(225)=15 which is true but it looks like the sqrt line extends over the stuff to it's right too. So instead it would be sqrt(16*sqrt(64*sqrt(225)))."

Hope its okay to post outside thoughts. I tried to give them credit for their work...i'm taking no credit for anything but my personal insights in this post.

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