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Old March 1st, 2006, 10:15 PM

Default "He" who is he?

When Ethan is speaking with Zeke about not making a list, Zeke mentions that "He wont be happy".

Who do you think "He" is?

I think that when they say "he" they are reffering to Alvar Hanso or Gerald DeGroot.
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Yeh, I think it's DeGroot, personally.
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He is... "THE GREAT AND POWERFUL BLACK SMOKE MONSTER!" Just kidding!
I agree it's one of the two big guys in Dharma.
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I'm toying with the idea that the "He" that Mr. Friendly and the other Others report to is Henry Gale.

He appears to be a master manipulator / psychologist.

Maybe he controls a faction, the remnants of a long term and mostly failed Utopian experimental society. His method of control? Fear of the virus, and control of the vaccine supply.

But there are some cracks. Ethan shows a few signs of independence, taking Claire out for a walk, and expressing his wish that she could stay with them. I think Ethan was pushing his bounds by telling Claire as much as he did. Alex obviously undermined the plans of the Others, but still stays with them - they must have some way of keeping her around.

And one more observation. If Henry is an Other, why is he not too concerned with being locked up in the Hatch with no access to the vaccine? Perhaps he knows the sickness is bogus, or is only contracted on purpose (i.e. by an injection), or he personally is immune for other reasons.

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Ethan shows a few signs of independence, taking Claire out for a walk, and expressing his wish that she could stay with them. I think Ethan was pushing his bounds by telling Claire as much as he did.

I also thought maybe Ethan was falling for Claire...the way he handled her stomach, seemed very father-like. He put his hand on her knee and looked so happy having her on his arm. His weakness was Claire. He wanted her so badly, he got too close to the camp and paid for it with his life.
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He is... "THE GREAT AND POWERFUL BLACK SMOKE MONSTER!" Just kidding!
I agree it's one of the two big guys in Dharma.
I bet you were right up until you said "just kidding"...!
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hey, can anyone find a shot of what the medicine bottle looked like that desmond was shooting into his arm and put it next to a shot of what last night's medicine bottle looed like, wonder if they're the same?
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Here. It's a thumbnail in the first post of this thread.

Screencaps for "Maternity Leave"
 
 
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nevermind on the pics of the two vaccines. i found it on another LOST site and they are the same.......maybe they cloned the bottles aswell, lol.
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Has anybody notice the difference in the shape of the facility from the way Claire remembers it and the way it looks when the Claire, Kate, and Rouseau find it?

I think the airplane mobile in the nursery was a hint that Claire's subconscious was trying to tell her that things were as real as she thought they were. Remember, that airplane mobile was from one of Claire's nightmares.

The room is painted bright blue, but when they (Kate, Claire, and Rouseau) the paint is a drab grey.

The bright white corridor now has broken lights and water and dirt on the floor.

The surgury room is a mess. Claire's glance at it when she is being warned by Alex(?) shows a bright, well-equiped suite with a lot of chrome.


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