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2x13 - The Long Con Airdate: February 8, 2006

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Old February 8th, 2006, 11:36 PM

Arrow The Locke on the gun

AHHH, Locke once again this week did a very BOLD thing.

He took the guns, Locke took matters in to his own hands because he knew that Jack was going to start his war without consulting him. He was going to break the deal that Locke and him made, not to touch the guns without consulting him.

Did he do the right thing????

I had a 15 min. long argument (anyone suprised) about this topic with a friend. My friend insisted that Locke was wrong to move the guns, because if something happened to Locke no one would know where the guns are (that being if Charlie did not follow him). And that Locke is trying to escalate a power struggle between the two of them.

I took the disagreement ground on this one, I agree with Locke, If Jack and his possy (I cant believe I just said that, "possy") went and started flaring up the gun, everyone would run out shooting each other and more people would have died.

I have stuck with Locke's decisions thusfar, and I will probaly continue to, Locke is a very wise man. Whether punching a lieng, fire starting, gunrunning, babystealer, or taking guns away from a bloodthirsty possy of warmongers.

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By the way, what did you think about what he did????????
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If it were me, I would have just changed the lock combination again, then wait for Jack to confront me about giving him the wrong numbers. Then I would confront him about going after the guns without consulting me (Locke) first. I would not have hidden them for two reasons: 1) as previously stated, if anything happened to Locke, no one would have access to them, and 2) I would be worried someone else (Lostie or Other) would find them and take them.
 
 
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If it were me, I would have just changed the lock combination again.
Yeah, but remember Locke and Sawyer agreed that Jack would find a way to get through the door. He would to, he was very focused on his targets tonight, well yesterday now.
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Yeah, but at least that would buy some time for negotiating. He could always hide them later as a last resort.
 
 
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He would have no chance, Jack and his new friend Angry-Lucia would have waited there until they could have the guns. Locke would never get the chance to hide them.
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No No No...
Locke Blew it. Bad leadrership or not there is a way of doing things. Locke needed to confront Jack. Sawyer of all people, Locke's source of information. Time and time again has shown his priority list. I love Locke, as does my daughter. But he blew it and we are so pissed at him.
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Even the smartest of people can get taken in by a good con man. I think Locke did what he felt was right at the time. That's the deal with a con. You make the person think that it's what needs to be done.
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Con men can convince even the smartest of people - esp. when they have been perfecting their craft for 10 years or more. But for some reason, I was hoping Locke would be able to see through him. When Sawyer - I love the fact that Locke refuses to call him that - was talking to him in the hatch, I knew something was up. Then the double whammy was that Charlie was behind the whole thing. That boy does burn his bridges behind him.
I am disturbed that Locke was easily taken in - James (Sawyer) didn't
even have to work that hard to convince him. Locke has always been
a wait and see and calmly talk it out kind of guy. Last night he just took
Sawyer's word for it.
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I found it hard to believe Locke took Sawyer's word for what Jack wanted to do. I'm becoming more convinced that the things Locke does are to manipulate the group and not just reaction to the events of the moment.

The Locke character is reminding me more and more of O'Quinn's Peter Watts role in "Millennium" for any of you familiar with that show.
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I found it hard to believe Locke took Sawyer's word for what Jack wanted to do. I'm becoming more convinced that the things Locke does are to manipulate the group and not just reaction to the events of the moment.

The Locke character is reminding me more and more of O'Quinn's Peter Watts role in "Millennium" for any of you familiar with that show.

Bingo, SC, he played the players...
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